tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12602416.post8891670905192461075..comments2023-11-02T07:39:55.859-04:00Comments on VERTIZONTAL: On My MindUnknownnoreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12602416.post-56339548550163493622008-03-09T20:52:00.000-04:002008-03-09T20:52:00.000-04:00I admire your strength in the ability to bipass th...I admire your strength in the ability to bipass the negative combative emails from fellow christians. I personally struggle with the hypocrisy of our christian society. I just do not get it. How can anyone proclaiming to be a christian be so cruel. Why are those who claim to be true to their faith our worst critics. Why are some christians looking for a fight? It truly makes no sense to me. I am disturbed that our teachers are being attacked via emails. We have the right to question, analyze, seek and discuss topics with our teachers. But for those who choose to be aggressive, mean, hateful and down right evil, I say "see ya". There is no place for you here at Westwinds. I would rather sit in a room full of atheists and drug dealers than surround myself by self centered, judgmental christians. After further reflection from todays message at fusion, Dave said that there are things in this world that we may never understand. These christians are people I will probably never understand. <BR/><BR/>I admire and love our teachers at Westwinds. I love the fact that I can be me, a struggling christian, a sinner and still feel at home. I walk away every sunday with something to ponder, study and reflect upon. I have sat in many fusions with tears flowing down my face because the message has been so spiritual to me. <BR/><BR/>The last two teachings of Ecclesiastes have been awesome!!! I can relate to the preacher within my own life and feelings. I think it is an awesome book to teach, especially in this day and age. Thank you Westwinds teachers for rocking the boat! <BR/>You are the greatest!!!!Ms. Lisahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03536320311897819821noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12602416.post-13401022070265255332008-03-06T00:22:00.000-05:002008-03-06T00:22:00.000-05:00Haha...chokes on the pitch pipe. That kind made m...Haha...chokes on the pitch pipe. That kind made me laugh.<BR/><BR/>But I don't think she's going anywhere. What I didn't mention is, she's on the board. ;)<BR/><BR/>As weird as it sounds, I think she probably has a great heart. She just has that personality, and I hope she comes to see that she's not the "worship police" and like you said, some things aren't going to change. <BR/><BR/>I'm just learning, kinda like your post talked about, that there are some people who I don't always have to listen to, and I need to surround myself intentionally with people I trust who can criticize me and help direct the ministry.bobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05273151407624675507noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12602416.post-91519115243170399062008-03-05T10:00:00.000-05:002008-03-05T10:00:00.000-05:00Pitch pipe? Wow, man. I give you permission to t...Pitch pipe? Wow, man. I give you permission to tell her to cease and desist. Bad news. I hope she chokes on it. Ha ha. Not really. No. I really mean it. If she is not willing to lay it down and quit fighting then she needs to find another place to worship because clearly she is not happy and is not worshipping. Rather than fighting with you against something that is not going to change, she needs to make the change. Praying for you.Johnhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04043129436872610166noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-12602416.post-70396006402668176522008-03-05T02:17:00.000-05:002008-03-05T02:17:00.000-05:00Interesting post man. For me it makes me think of...Interesting post man. For me it makes me think of an email I received while at Recreate that I'm still trying to deal with. The person that sent it didn't desire I think to be rude, but, well, in a way, they were.<BR/><BR/>She was very clear about all the ways I should be leading worship and choosing music that I am not. This past Sunday as I was leading worship, I actually looked down to see her blowing in her pitch pipe during the song to see what the note was because she no doubt felt it was too high. As I looked at several people deep into worship with God, she wasn't even trying.<BR/><BR/>I informed her in a prior email that we probably would not agree on several issues and that I had some people in the ministry and on staff who regularly help to assess the direction of the ministry and the services. This is actually something that I am in the process of creating. I don't feel like I can brush her off without having people that I can listen to criticism from.<BR/><BR/>But that is where my question, similar to some of yours comes in. She is a believer, a bit more old school, and we are just not going to agree on some things. But when do we need to just be ok and move on, and when do we need to be willing to sit down and listen to what they have to say. I have trouble believing it would be very useful to converse about it because we just come from different places. But I worry that perhaps I'm failing by not taking it to heart anyway.<BR/><BR/>So sorry, no answers there...just another question. Mabe I'll come back and leave an answer later. When it's not so late and I'm not so introspective. ;)bobbyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05273151407624675507noreply@blogger.com